The game needs to provide some reasons for new players to play.

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    Admin

    Thanks for sharing your feedback. We strive to provide a fun and enjoyable game experience for all players, regardless of the amount of time that has been invested (Including soft launch players that have had more time in the game).

    In Wartide, we want all players to interact in the same game world, as opposed to dividing players among different servers based on when they started the game. Unlike other games, this method allows the entirety of the Wartide community to play together.

    To your point, players who have started earlier than others, will likely be more progressed than newer users. Towards the later end of the progression, player competitiveness is more determined by utilizing different tactics effectively and understanding the meta game, as opposed to who has invested the most amount of time (this provides a type of soft cap on progression). In time, new players can progress to be just as competitive as more seasoned players. In addition, with future content updates, we plan to open more avenues for players to customize their heroes and strategies. This will add a significant power boost over the current ‘soft capped’ power. With each new update, the prior content will become easier and faster to progress through, allowing newer players to progress at a more accelerated rate. This design allows players who have just started to enjoy Wartide, to quickly be able to compete with more seasoned players.

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    Drunk

    In time, I agree. But I do think you need to do something NOW. I see quite a few people quit before “in time”.

    those who played Half a year have far more well developed heroes than any other new players. So even if you focus on the strategy of hero utilizing, they will do better. unless you presume they are less experienced than new player, which is not true for sure. 

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    默默耕耘的土豆丝

    To players who have left at this point of time, I will generally conclude that this is not their type of game. The hard truth is likely due to their incompetency to handle this type of game genre. I shan’t comment further of players who have neither time nor perseverance.

    Like all games that I have played before, be it PC or mobile, this game also requires me to plan and be hardworking and make do with my limited resources. I also need to play well in order to get my favourite Rexenor to 5 stars by buying 5 of his relics from the shop every day, likewise for Goruk and Sagango.

    Minimal spending is a way to say thank you to the game developer. Big spending doesn’t guarantee a top spot anywhere.

    Dont feel disheartened when players left. It must be a blessing in disguise.

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    Drunk

    I really care for this game. I want the devs know that they are making a big mistake. If the game wants to survive, it needs constant cash flow in. However with those beta players half a year ahead of everyone, there is no need to spend. You will probably get there “in time”, why bother spending"? You will never beat them by soending. 

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    Drunk

    Hi ADmin, people spend to get competitive. If they know no matter what they do, they cannot catch up half a year work in short time, they lose incentive, you lose money. Game will go downward pretty quickly. Think about it! Make it a sustainable game.

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    Drunk

    Hi littlenlas, two points.

    1 it’s not that big spender does not guaranteed to win, currently big spenders are guaranteed to lose to those beta players that are half a year ahead of time. Why spend?

     

    2 minimal spending will not float the game, it will go down quickly.

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    Haldol

    I agree that arena and especially siege is completely non competitive. There’s no amount of strategy that can over come the fact that portion of players who has been playing for six month have heroes who’s power is orders of magnitude greater than you can hope to get anytime soon.

    I also feel that player base is very small for this type of game. I’m very hesitant to spend much money at this time cuz I’m just not sure if this game will ever be able to attract big enough player base to be more fun and competitive.

    Time will tell if developers will be able to attract enough new players to make the game more competitive and therefore more fun without alienating beta testers who’s been playing for far longer than most players...

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    Drunk

    Hi haldol intotally agree. When it’s 1k power vs 1.5k, you can talk about strategy and skills. When it’s 1k vs 10k, they are mean less. Those beta players not only have already ahead of everyone by a margin, but also getting tens of more rewards in boss fight, alliance campaign, siege castle, pvp daily rewards, etc. you name it. The situation is actually getting worse.

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    legendm

    Hi. .what u talking about there is new players now in the top game man easy example Chinese players. ..this game just need time regular playing and if you like spend some money because this make the difference as any game. .

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    Drunk

    Hi legendm what u talking about, I guess you Are a beta player started before global launch?

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    Drunk

    Let’s make a simple example: a beta player, who started 5 month earlier than a new player who started after global launch. Only for food alone, the beta player could have 630*150days more free food than a new player, that equals to 94500 worth of gem, if a new player wants the same amount of food, it will cost him more than 600 US dollars to catch up. 

    Thats just the food, there are other stuff beta player gets way ahead: gem, hero relic, gold, essence, soul for skill upgrade, tokens, and the big spender runes. You name it. I am not sure how much it worth if you pay by $$$. But it would be ENORMOUS!

    Unless all the top beta players are inexperienced player in this game, or else I do not see a way to catch up. 

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    legendm

    As any game the players if he spend some money will make different if not u should have patience and if you can Inspect the new players in the top game they have unbelievable power new players and some of them control 1st rank. .

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    Drunk

    Legendm I guess either you think the people who read this forum are stupid, or you mean the beta players are stupid, lol

    Last time I check top one in arena and top one in siege and top one in boss fight  are  all beta players.

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    legendm

    I don't tell u the people are stupid man but any game need be beta at first then globally and I am with you the new players need more time to be like players beta and if you see the new players in the top they even have power best than beta players what make those different on the other new players

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    Fiesty Leprechau

    This reference to “in time” I would like to provide some sort of scale to this.

    3 star heroes require 250 hero relics to attain 5 star rating. Farming relics at a fast pace you can sustain an average about 10 relics per day on around 3 heroes.

    So in about 25 days free players can legitimately grind 3 heroes to 5 star. To be in the realm of tactics and alignment for pvp with seasoned players your going to want 10-12 heroes to fulfill tactical strategies. My interpretation of “in time” requires 2-3 months of grinding which could be sped up with purchases to under a month.

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    Drunk

    Even 2or 3 month later, you got what beta players have TODAY, they will be ahead of you 2 or 3 month again. Also note pvp is just one thing, most catchable thing. Siege, on the other hand, asks for as many good heroes as possible, will be a hell to catch  up.

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    Drunk

    How much do you think one would want to spend, if a competitive game put you into situations that you are months behind others and being the pray for month before you can stand up trying to fight back?

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    legendm

    And last thing for your information killing machine the top players are unbelievable spender and I played too much games like those I can't see and this enough to eat the game...thank you

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    Apises

    I think you guys are overreacting. This game is no difference from every other games like Summoners War and Clash of Clan. You are competing with players months even years ahead of you. I'd say at the end of day whales always win..

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    默默耕耘的土豆丝

    I need to emphasise that I have seen playersssssss who have only started this game as soon as global launch and they are top notch. I am not sure how many aren’t there yet but the Diamond group is getting larger by the day. New players don’t know who are the beta players, but the beta players do remember who are the new ones. So the argument on disadvantaging new players need revisiting. 

    Still if the problem boils down to how deep is one’s pocket, let’s not worry for others. 

    May we continue to enjoy the gameplay.

     

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    Drunk

    Hi littleblase I can easily tell who is beta player by their attitude. I guess legendm, arises, and you are beta players. Am I wrong? Lol

    in the other post, beta guys are complain about a rune that have better mini status, which is unfair. But when we talk about beta players are way stronger than a mini status of a rune, we see different attitudes. Lol. It’s really funny to compare some of the id’s attitude in these two posts :p

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    Vero

    I have to admit, for a person such as myself who has invested a lot of time carefully planning my playing time, I am discouraged by this post. I do not spend much time on these forums but I do feel the immediate urge to reduce my playing time as my efforts are never going to catch me to any top notch players due to beta players being allowed to play against the general population. A classic case of the rich get richer through world boss rankings as they have not only had a large head start, but continue to either keep their lead or increase it since they are allowed to participate in each event competing against mom beta players. Time to debate if my time is better spent elsewhere I guess.

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    shadowmaster78

    Hello all! Would like to share a few ideas to the devs and the community as far as new players goes. I am a new player and enjoying the game ALOT. I am fine with not being a top guy and feel as though the people who have been playing for months and months ahead of me are fine and have worked for what they have. That said: I would like to suggest something to help newer players and maybe even mid game players alike: SCALING Rewards To and based on Power!. Better rewards for people competing against other people with similiar power. The game is setup with the highest rewards for the top performers as it should be in arena, or world boss, but maybe better rewards in certain brackets of power might be a little more interesting!. maybe a 40-50k bracket, 50-60, 70-80, or maybe 20k difference on the brackets also yielding good rewards. These are just a few suggestions that may help with others getting annoyed. Again i enjoy the way the game is setup atm, but i also feel a rework on some of those things would have alot of positive feedback. 

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    Drunk

    It's been ten days and the admins don't want to comment on it.  I presume they are not interested even to mention they will see what they can do. So please let this post go down the drain. Like little laze said, there are some good players who can deal with it. Let's forget this post and enjoy the game. Thank you all for cooperation. 

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